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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:51:00 -0500 (EST)
From: p s <hisunprofitableservant@yahoo.ca>
Subject: I answered your questions, now please answer mine. (located with-in the answers)
To: darwin@atheists.net

 1) How would you define God, and why are you so convinced that there is one? 1. God is the beginning of all that is, and is totally perfect in and of Himself. Seeing He is perfect, He has no need to Change, as anything which could be eternal, must be perfect and have no need of chang e. As well if it did change it could not be eternal. 

2) If everything needs a creator, then who or what created God?  2. Where is the beginning of a circle seeing there isn't one, this is the wrong question to ask. Whatever was in the beginning, had to always have exi sted. Thus your premise is incorrect by saying all things need a creator. What ever was in the beginning could not have been created, or it would not have been the beginning.

3) How can something that cannot be described be said to exist? 3. It s not that God cannot be described, on the contrary, its only that seeing he exists in a different dimension, we cannot see Him. Can the wind be seen? No but you still feel its effects. Thus God also is not seen but His effects are felt in all that is.

4) Since there are countless religions in the world today claiming to be the one true religion , why do you think yours is truer than theirs?< /SPAN>  4. If you look at the History of the Jews, you will see countless amounts of e vidence of Gods existence. Everything from the discovery of a Boat in the top of a mountain fitting the exact size and shape as described in the bible, to the city of Babylon in Iraq having in every 10th stone a proclamation written by King Nebucha dnezzar giving praise to the God of Daniel who made His mind turn to a beast and claiming that He is the only true God, and the evidence of countless more uncoverings from a city burned by sulfur (Sodom and Gomorra) to carnage in the bottom of the sea b etween Egy

5) Can more than one of these religions be right?   5. That which is, needs to be understood for what is, not what we want to be. So the answer is, we need to know God for who He is (on His terms), not what we want Him to be (not on ours).

6) If you feel in your heart that your religion is the right one, how do you answer those of other faiths who claim the same thing?   6. Jesus said the works that I do are proof that God is with me. Show me someone that has preformed more miracles then Jesus. Since there is no-one that exists, it should be accepted that hi s version of who God is, is more accurate then all other peoples understanding on the same subject.

7) How do you settle the debate and find out which of these religions, if any, is the right one?   7. As is laid out already, they must be able to credibly prove by historical evidence that what is said is true. Then weighed against each other to see, which if any stand out above all the others.

8) Why does God allow all these false religions to exist?   8. I will give you my version but before I do, let me say this: "we are but specks in the earth, and in this universe we are smaller then the size of atoms in comparison to ourselves. So to demand of God, to know why God has purposed all that He has, I thi nk is a very arrogant stance to take; as if he must answer to our reasoning." We seek that which we value and thus we condemn ourselves because instead of seeking to know God, on His terms, we have created fables and declared them to be true. Because th e Muslim faith has still not been dealt with in this letter I will add: looking into many of the claims that Mohammad makes, one very quickly sees that not only does he attempt to rewrite history, but that Jesus followers version of Him and&nb sp;Mohamma

 9) Is the bloody history of Christianity consistent with what is supposed to be a religion of love, or does it simply illustrate the cons equences of abandoning reason for faith?   9. This bloody history is not Christianity but people that claim to be Christians. Up until now I have not heard the true version of Christianity being preached on this earth, but that is about to change. And yes you are right it does illustrate the consequences of abandoning reason for faith. Let me add this: "Faith is not believing something with no reasonable grounds to do so, but it is to believe something which cannot be seen."

10) If everything is the product of a grand design by an omniscient, benevolent designer, why is the history of life a record of horrible suffering, blundering waste, and miserable failures? Why does this God go through billions of years of such carnage without yet arriving at His goal?    10. Why does man create anyt hing knowing that all he creates will be destroyed someday? Just as we have our purposes for doing what we do, so God has His own reason for doing as He pleases.

11) Why did God intervene so many times in human affairs during antiquity (according to the Bible) and yet not do anything during the Holocaust of t he Second World War?   11. God did not always defend the Israelites, many times he brought His judgments against them because of their sins. Nothing has changed.

 12) Why should onešs inner convictions about the existence of God indicate that He/She/They/It exists outside of that personšs mind?  12. Ones inner convictions are a matter of that which is learned either by nature or wrongly instilled by that which is improperly understood. But having said that, I don't think that we have to use this system alone to prove the existence of G od. I have yet to have a man explain to me that God absolutely does not exist, on the other hand I have yet to have any man prove to me that what I believe is not based on absolute solid grounds to prove His existence. I believe  ;that both reason and science absolutely prove God exists. By the way, mind is not 3 dimensional, where are its origins found; neither from matter, nor space?

13) Can a God who would abandon His children when they needed him the most still be considered all good?   13. Who said God has abandoned His children. Jesus said, of the children of Israel, that they where of their father, the devil. As he continued he said: “if you were of God you would believe me, for I proceed fro m God.”  

14) If something is not rational, should it be believed anyway?    14. Ab solutely not. But what is irrational is that you believe the universe always existed. I'll assume you believe this irrational science. Whatever is eternal has no need to change thus since the universe is in a constant state of change this proves it is n ot eternal. Having said that, matter cannot exist without space and space cannot create matter, thus neither could be eternal.

 15) If the God of the Bible is all good, why does He himself say that He created evil? (Isaiah 45:7)  15. We create th ings that break down for what we consider to be good ends. So why should it be so hard to understand that God would do the same? How would we know what value good is, if we could not compare it to evil?

16) Is there a better way than reason to acquire knowledge and truth?  16. Yes expe rience but how can you speak about experiencing God if are not willing to admit that He exists. You speak about things that you know nothing of. Incase you doubt this, tell me: "who has more right to speak about what it is like to drive a car, one who h as read a book on the subject, or one who has driven a car?"

17) If you would answer #16 with faith, then why are there so many contradictory faiths in the world?   17. I didn't but I will answer this anyway: “Because man does not want to know God, but would rather create his own beliefs, and thus his damnation is just.” You also fall into this category as an atheist.

18) Is comfort more important to you than intellectual integrity?   18. You ca nnot have comfort without intellectual integrity and be honest. Now let me ask you... Are you honest?

 19) What would it take to convince you that you are wrong?  19. I think the burden of proof is on you to prove you are right. Not only have you not, but in your arrogance you speak of things your ignorant of. On the other hand what I have mentioned here is totally based on reason and facts. Your beliefs you have absolutely no grounds for. If there was ever a descrip tion of what a Hypocrite is, I think that it would be hard to find one more suited to this term, then for one to take the stance of an atheist and pose the questions that you do, in the ignorance that you poses.

20) If nothing can convince you that you are wrong, then why should your faith be considered anything other than a cult?   20.  I pose this same question to you.

21) If an atheist lives a decent, moral life, why should a loving, compassionate God care whether or not we believe in Him/Her/It?    21. Because all know that they are guilty before God. And as you go before a judge to be punished for your transgressions, how much more do you deserve to be punished for your arrogant stance against your Creator.

22) Why do so many religious people thank God when they survive a disaster, yet fail to be angry with him for causing the disaster in the first place?    22. Because they are self-serving individuals that know nothing of God. To add to one of your comments; Proverbs 16 vs. 4 states: "God has created all things for Himself, e ven the wicked for the day of evil."

23) If you demand that the atheist disprove the Judeo-Christian God, are you prepared to disprove the existence of Zeus, Odin, Ra and all the other ancient gods and goddesses?    23. The God of the bible has many historical proofs of His existence, which I have earlier referred to; these other myths have none.

24) Why is the number of atheists in prisons disproportionably much smaller than their numbers in the general population?   24. Because as you have eluded to, most so-called Christians are self-deceived, and know nothing of the righteousness of Christ, and are dead in their sins. As Jesus said He will tell them "depart from me yo u workers of iniquity."

25) Is the brutal, vengeful and bloodthirsty God as depicted in the Old Testament still a loving God?  25. Does God need to justify Himself to us? If an atom had understanding could it be expected to understand the complexities of Humankind? I would suppose if an atom had not emotion, it could not even begin to understand us . We are smaller in comparison to God, and yet you feel that He needs to justify Himself to you. I might give you many reasons for Gods judgments of the Old Testament, but let me only give this one. How could you know Gods love, unless you know you r deserved end?

26) Should any religion that demands we elevate faith over reason be trusted?   ; 26. True: Faith has its bases in reasoning, as it would be unreasonable to believe something without grounds to believe it. But atheism has no reasonable grounds, how do you believe such un-provable nonsense, which contradicts reason?

27) How can the same God that, according to the Old Testament, killed everybody on Earth except for four people be considered as anything other than evil?  27. What if mankind was so wicked, to spare what good was left, He cut off the existing corruption to save the little good that was left?

28) Is the acceptance of religious mysticism, magic and miracles consistent with our understanding of good mental health?   28. Is it good mental health to state against our own existence the nonexistence of God? I think this is funny, for in your arguments you condemn yourself.

 29) Must we hate our families and ourselves in order to be good Christians? (Luke 14:26)  29. If we are not willing to Love G od and do as He asks, rather then following after our fellow human beings, then yes.

30) Since the ancient world abounded with tales of resurrected Savior-Gods that were supposed to have returned from the dead to save humanity, why is the Jesus myth any truer than all the others?   30. Jesus is an historical Fact. Josephus (a Jewish, none Christian historian employed by Rome) writes of his existence and in a day when not many could read or write we have at least 7 other individuals who also write of His existence.

31) If the Bible is the standard for morality, why does it not forbid slavery and war?&n bsp;  31. Who says they are wrong? You work for someone and pay taxes to the government, these are both forms of slavery. And war is a necessary evil, given that evil exists.

32) If the Bible is the inerrant word of God, why does it contain so many factual errors, such as the two contradictory accounts of Creation in Genesis?   32.  These are all misunderstandings, not errors. Although there are some actual errors in manuscripts, as they where recopied by hundreds of different individuals. < /o:p>

33) Why isnšt the Bible written in a straightforward way that leaves no doubt about what it means?  33. It is necessary that we seek after that which we deem valuable. By not seeking after God we condemn ourselves, given we care more for the things God has created, then for the Creator of these things. Why should not God try, and rewa rd those of His creation, who will be willing to seek after Him, with all their heart, to come to the knowledge of the truth, and thus show us an attribute of His character? Before you answer that, remember that we can only truly know that which we have experienced, there is no substitution for experience.

34) The last time Christianity attained total power, it resulted in the Dark Ages, so why should we expect anything different from Christian fundamentalists today?   34. That was not Christianity but Catholisism.

35) Has anyone ever been killed in the name of atheism?   Was not Hitler your greatest follower?

36) Why does history show that every time a fundamentalist religion has gained power, tyranny and persecutions have soon followed?   36. Because people have not desired to truly know God, but rather only have used Him to justify their excuses to do evil. Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world, otherwise would my follower s fight. These forms of so-called Christianity that had done this evil under the misrepresentation of Christianity had nothing to do with Jesus, nor his teachings.

The old and the New Testament served 2 separate purposes. 1 God used to show man that he could not and would not be able to do what he wanted without him ruling over their hearts, and to al so show mankind his deserved punishments for not serving Him as God. The other he shows them the cost, of serving Him, with all of their heart. I don't intend to expound on that statement. You shall soon see true Christianity once again on this earth, a s the Lord himself is not far from returning.

His unprofitable servant.

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