At 09:41 PM 11/22/01 -0500, you wrote:

 I hope u don't say to this something along the lines of don't waste your time
or anything but... in a sheer answer or 2, what main arguements should I ask
a reverend or a minister to dispute christianity or mainly gods existence, in
articualar, one of my very close friends is a 7th day adventist(if thats how
one spells it) and I want to pose some arguements to stump them, maybe even
sway their religious views, the other is a minister and a christian, how
should I go about the same task, argumentative wise, please tell because I am
an athiest and always inquiring to learn more.


Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:36:05 -0800
From: Darwin Bedford <>
Subject: Re: haha, please tell

I really don't know where to start.  I don't think it can be done with a few main arguments--it takes more of a mind-meld to get a believer to even question his fundamental beliefs a tiny bit.  Once a person believes that God caused man to write the very words of the Bible there's very little opening for doubt.  The only thing I can think of is to try to get them to explain why they have chosen their religion over others and why they have not chosen each of the other religions.  Keep reminding them that it inappropriate for them to use the words of the Bible to justify their acceptance of the Bible being true because that can be done with any holy book.  I refer to this as the monolibric effect--or one book logic and reasoning.

If you do manage to get them out of their comfort zone, please let me know what did it.

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Darwin Bedford