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From: "Fn Lou" <fnlou88@hotmail.com>
To: darwin@atheists.net
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Subject: Your ideas....
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:24:21 -0400
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Hello Atheist,

Interesting name you have there......."Darwin Bedford".  Were you named after Charles Darwin the evolutionist?  Have you ever wondered why alligators have not "evolved" during the course of the millions of years they have been on this planet?  You'd think that they would have started walking upright by now and asking for their "rights" to not be made into shoes and handbags.  Of course, they haven't.....and we humans will do with them as we wish - protect them as "endangered species" or convert them into a "nice belt", whatever we care to do in any given decade, just as we always have since we came to be.

Anyway, as you invite email from your website and I found a link to it posted on another, I thought I'd give you some "food for thought".  I find your arguments against religion and/or the existence of GOD to be pathetic in the extreme.  You offer no substantial, credible, or demonstrable alternative explaination for the human condition whatsoever.  For example, you state in one of your "posts" -

"The world needs a catalytic leader that will free people from their need to believe."

Hmmmmm....So, you have formed a belief system within your own mind that the world needs someone (specifically you) to save them from their own "need". I'm assuming you believe this because you believe your own thoughts to be superior to those who might disagree with you (as evidenced by your writings).  So following your own logic, these words you have posted from your own mind on your own website are words of a superior mind?  If so, then do you propose that your own statement regarding "words" and their "truthfulness" don't apply to you?  You stated -

"However, many of the words we use carry some untruth and since we use words in order to communicate our experiences, much is lost or distorted in the process."

I think you have revealed a great deal of information about yourself in that quote.  Very nice of you to inform the reader to be wary of your words, as they most certainly do "carry some untruth".

This "untruth" you write of is further evidenced by this quote of yours - "When I succeed, unimaginable global jubilation will come to pass and people will gladly send me money; invite me for dinner; compose and perform on my behalf; and women will howl my name during intense orgasm."

Sorry Darwin, but if this is your stated goal in life then I don't hold out much hope for you. I don't think any bookies in Vegas would give you very favorable odds either.  This much you can take to the bank - if you believe yourself capable of "freeing people from their need to believe", then you might start by realizing that the alternative you propose - "howling your name during intense orgasm" , simply does not measure up to the prospect of everlasting life, and your efforts are most assuredly for naught.

But then again, you don't desire everlasting life do you?  You stated -

"I reckon that even if you could have things exactly as you wanted them to be, that you would eventually get bored there."

You reckon so huh Darwin?  Well that certainly doesn't demonstrate a superior intellect.  In fact, you yourself admitted that  - "Personally, I wouldn't want to live longer than say, 140 years."

Hmmmm....So the great superior intellect who seeks to "free the people from their need to believe" can't even imagine entertaining himself for a mere 140 years? Sorry Darwin, but you most certainly won't live 140 years, and I don't think you have enough intellect to sustain even half that amount of time.

Perhaps the most disturbing quote of all on your site is the following -

"this is love literature"

Of course, you are correct in saying it, but not for the reasons that you might expect.  The dictionary defines the word LOVE thusly -

"love    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (lv)
A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance.

Sexual passion.
Sexual intercourse.
A love affair.
An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object.
A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment.
An expression of one's affection: Send him my love.

A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language.
The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love.
Love Mythology. Eros or Cupid.
often Love Christianity. Charity.
Sports. A zero score in tennis."

Personally, I think you have a very deep "LOVE" for yourself and for your own beliefs, but I don't think you meant to infer or imply that notion on the Atheist Site you admin.  What you clearly meant your readers to assume is that you "love" them and/or all people - thereby justifying your need to "save" them.  But you DON'T Darwin!  You don't love all humans as you obviously understand that most of them have a belief system (or systems) contrary to your own.  Therefore, by your own admissions and by the ridiculous assumptions and conclusions you draw on your website, you do not have a "deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness".

You are incapable of having a "oneness" with humanity because you despise their "needs".  You do not speak the truth because "words we use carry some untruth".  Therefore, by your own admission, you do not LOVE humanity, you are not "ONE" with humanity, and you DO NOT SPEAK THE TRUTH!

Another liar amongst many.  You are no "Messiah" Darwin.  You are just one more fool on the internet trying to "figure it all out".  You haven't, but I trust you will when your day comes, and IT WILL.

GOOD "LUCK" hehehehe

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