A COMMON reason many people give for doubting the existence of a Creator is the prevalence of SUFFERING in the world. Throughout the centuries there has been so much cruelty, bloodshed and outright evil, bringing great suffering to millions of innocent people. Thus many ask: “ IF THERE IS A GOD, WHY DOES HE PERMIT ALL OF THIS?” Since, as we have seen, the Bible’s account best fits the facts about creation, can the Bible also help us to understand why a powerful Creator would permit so much suffering for such a long time?
The opening chapters of Genesis provide the background for answering this question. They describe the creation of a world without suffering. The first man and woman were put in a paradise setting, a garden like home called Eden. Regarding the earth, they were told “to cultivate it and take care of it”.
In addition, since the first humans were created with perfect bodies and perfect minds, they were not defective in any way. Hence, there was no reason for them to suffer from sickness, old age or DEATH. Instead, they had the prospect of an endless future in an earthly paradise.
The first pair were also told to “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth”. As they would bear children, the human family would increase and extend the boundaries so that it would eventually encompass the entire earth.
HOWEVER, for this harmony to continue, the first human pair had to accept their Creator’s right to govern human affairs. That is, they had to ACCEPT his sovereignty. WHY? First of all, because it was PROPER. The maker of anything surely has a right to exercise a measure of control over what he has done. This principle has been reflected in ownership laws for centuries. In Addition, Humans needed to accept the DIRECTION of their maker because of this crucial fact: They were not designed with the ability to govern themselves successfully apart from their Creator, any more than they could stay alive if they did not eat, drink and breathe.
As long as humans stayed within the guidelines set for them by their Creator, LIFE would be continuous, successful and happy.
Also, humans were created to be free agents. They were NOT made to react like ROBOTS, or compelled to do certain things primarily out of Instinct, as are animals ot insects. BUT this FREEDOM was to be RELATIVE, not Absolute. It was to be EXERCISED responsibly, within the boundaries of GOD’s laws, laws that worked for the common good. WITHOUT LAW to govern human interrelations, there would be ANARCHY, and the lives of all persons would be affected adversely.
Thus, while relative FREEDOM is desirable, TOO MUCH Freedom is not. If you give a child too much freedom, it may lead to his playing on a busy street, or putting his hand on a hot stove. TOTAL FREEDOM to make all our own decisions without considering our Maker’s direction can cause all kinds of problems. THAT WAS THE CASE OF THE FIRST HUMANS. THEY CHOSE TO MISUSE THEIR GIFT OF FREEDOM. They decided, WRONGLY, to GRASP for INDEPENDENCE fro their Creator and thereby “BE LIKE GOD”. They felt that they could determine for themselves what was right and what was wrong.
When the first humans PULLED AWAY from their Creator’s Direction, WHAT HAPPENED to THEM is SIMILAR to what happens WHEN YOU PULL OUT THE PLUG of an ELECTRIC FAN. As long as the fan is Plugged into a POWER SOURCE, IT RUNS. But when Disconnected, IT SLOWS Down and eventually COMES to a DEAD stop.
That is what HAPPENED when the first humans PULLED AWAY from their CREATOR, “ THE SOURCE OF LIFE ”. Without their Creator’s sustaining POWER, A GRADUAL BREAKDOWN OF MIND AND BODY Began. IN Time , they GREW OLD AND DIED.
When the first humans chose to be independent from their maker, THEY FELL FROM PERFECTION. This was BEFORE they had children, these reflected what the parents had become – IMPERFECT. So the FIRST HUMANS became like a DEFECTIVE PATTERN. Everything produced from them was ALSO DEFECTIVE. Hence, we are all born IMPERFECT and INHERIT the DISABILITIES of AGING, SICKNESS and DEATH. This imperfection opened the floodgates of HUMAN FOLLY. Thus, MANKIND’s History has been filled WITH SUFFERING, SORROW, SICKNESS and DEATH.
IS THIS TO SAY THAT WICKEDNESS ORIGINATED ENTIRELY WITH HUMANS? NO! There is more to it.
The creation of intelligent creatures was not limited to humans. Already GOD had created countless spirit creatures in the heavens. They too were FREE agents and also had the choice in accepting their Creator’s direction. ONE of those spirit creatures chose to dwell on a desire for independence. His ambition built up to such degree that it moved him to challenge God’s authority. He told the woman (man’s wife of first humans) that they could break God’s law and yet assured her “ You positively will not DIE”. Thus he called into question the validity of God’s laws and cast doubt on God’s way of governing the first humans. Indeed, he cast doubt on their Creator’s very right to rule. For this misrepresentation he came to be called SATAN, which means “RESISTER” and “DEVIL”, meaning “SLANDERER”. For the past years, this attitude of SATAN has influenced mankind, advancing a policy of rule or ruin.
But WHY did God not destroy these law breakers, both human and spirit at the start? The answer lies in the fact that profound issues had been raised before all intelligent creation. One of the issues involved questions such as: Would independence from God’s sovereignty ever bring lasting benefits? Would God’s direction of people be better for them, or would man’s own direction be better? Could humans successfully govern this world independent of their Creator? In Short, did humans really need God’s guidance? THESE QUESTIONS required ANSWERS that ONLY the passing of TIME could Supply.
WHY SO LONG? ….. GOD’s SOLUTION? …. ….CONTINUATION UPON REQUEST….But You DOnt Need to, I THOUGHT YOU READ & KNOW EVERYTHING.
A CALL FOR JIHAD (RELIGIOUS WAR) came from Muslim Extremist only, usually Terrorists. Even you as an atheist cannot stop this kind of people of doing violent acts.
WE, CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS AND OTHERS BELIEVE THAT THERE IS GOD. WE DIFFERS ONLY OF THE WAY WE WORSHIP AND PRAY.
RELIGION CAN’T SAVE YOU AND ME, RELIGION IS NOT THE CAUSE OF WAR, IS THE PEOPLE ITSELF, RELIGION IS ONLY A FORM OF COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE SAME WAY OF WORSHIP, PRAYER AND WAYS OF LIFE. AT LEAST WE BELIEVE OF A CREATOR. IT IS OUR FAITH EVEN IF DON’T SEE, TOUCH OR HEAR HIM. WE HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. RIGHT?
WE ARE NOT PERFECT OR HOLY. FROM TIME TO TIME THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO COMMIT SIN BUT AT LEAST WE ARE TRYING TO BE HOLY. NOT ALL PEOPLE BELONGING TO A RELIGION KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEIR GOD AND READ THE BIBLE).
WHAT THE ATHEISTS DO IN THIS WORLD TO HELP AND PROMOTE PEACE, POVERTY AND OTHER SOCIO ECONOMIC ISSUES? Do you have a group of people or person Like Mother Teresa? Who left comfortable life to help the poor people?
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN ? COLLECTING MONEY FOR YOUR CAUSE HAHAHA.
YOU HAVE ALL THE FREEDOM TO PROMOTE YOUR BELIEFS. YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT TO INFORM, SAY AND TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT.
BUT TALK ONLY ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS AND DON’T AND STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE, OUR OWN BELIEFS. YOU ARE USING OUR FAITH, BELIEFS TO MAKE SOMETHING WHAT YOU DON’T BELIEVE.
IF YOU ARE AN ATHEIST MESSIAH, WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD? GIVE ME YOUR MONEY AND MAKE ME RICH AHAHAHA. MAY YOU CAN COLLECT RICHES AND BRING INTO YOUR GRAVE BUT YOU CANNOT CONVERT AND BRING ALL PEOPLE NOT TO BELIEVE. NO WAY. SORRY!
WHY ARE YOU TALKING & SWEARING MOSTLY ABOUT CHRISTIAN BELIEFS ONLY. Using Picture of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.... WHY YOU DON’T SWEAR OTHERS LIKE MUSLIM. TRY to SWEAR their ALLAH AND their QURAN(Holy Book). I THINK YOU ARE JUST SCARED OR DOESN’T KNOW ABOUT MUSLIMS. I CHALLENGED YOU! TRY AND WE WILL WAIT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU HAHAHAHA.PUT ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT THEM AND I WILL INFORM MOST OF MY MUSLIM FRIENDS IN THE WORLD. CHICKEN!
YOU ARE SELLING T SHIRTS, ETC. AND ASKING DONATIONS ALREADY? MAKE MOOONEEEYYYY!!!! AND SO, YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY FROM your SUPPOSED Followers Like the way you think of other religions? GOOD LUCK!
BEING AN ATHEIST, WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE? HOW DO YOU VIEW BEING WITH OTHER HUMAN LIFE FORMS? WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THE WORLD? DO YOU HAVE ANY PLAN TO SOLVE POVERTY, WAR, HUNGER, FAMINE? WHAT DO YOU DO? JUST TALK ABOUT RELIGION, CHHIRTIANITY? CONVINCING PEOPLE NOT TO BELIEVE IN GOD?
BETTER! INSTEAD, GO TO THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND HELP THE PEOPLE. NEED MONEY? GET IT FROM ALL ATHEIST and AT LEAST WE CAN SAY THAT YOU DO SOMETHING GOOD TO HUMANITY. TRY MUSLIM MINDANAO PHILIPPINES, MAYBE In a SECOND YOUR HEAD WILL BE CUT OFF Hehehehe.
WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU. SMILE JESUS LOVES YOU.
A born Catholic, became UnBeliever of God, Unbeliever of Any Religion. Look and Find Where is GOD, Been so many places but Can't Find Him, Believed that I WAS GOD, Only to find He's in my heart, became Believer of GOD AGAIN through his SON JESUS Christ and practicing CHRISTIAN.
Bet you, you are just using your stupidity or shall i call intellegence BUT I THINK YOU NEVER DID TRY TO JOIN DIFFRENT RELIGIONS BEFORE YOU CONCLUDE THAT THERE IS NO GOD. You can never add more about you being ATHEIST if you cannot experience below,
(Christianity, Muslims, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. and then NO RELIGION then NO GOD) TRY IT MAN!
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2001 13:01:16 -0700 (PDT)
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