This is a long letter but I'll bet your used to that. I signed it and
left contact information if you care to reply.
My definition of God is that of a God that is all powerful and does
exist. If you try to change my definition, that is to say for instance
that god is not all powerful then I will have to agree that your definition of a
god that is not all powerful is the definition of a god that does not
exist. So even if you could prove your point through some means, the
instant I agreed with you I would be talking about a different definition than
that of an all powerful God that does exist. So we will have proved
nothing because every point taken changes the definition of an all powerful God
which does exist.
I base my faith that there is a God, solely on the fact that existence
itself is so mind boggling to me, that after I consider that I exist, my
only conclusion is that miracles are possible.
You yourself can test nature. That is a miracle. Isn't
that fact wondrous and marvelous? Examine nature and declare that their is
no cause. Existence itself proves the existence of God. You have to
go no further.
You are the proof!
I am awed by nature. My breath that rushes into my chest and my
beating heat are so incredible that I do not understand how anything could ever
be discounted as a miraculous possibility including the existence of God.
When one does not believe that a being exists that is greater than himself
doesn't that means that he believes that he is the most supreme
being? If man is the panicle of his own existence then
naturally, to believe in anything greater would dethrone him. There is a
hint of arrogance in atheism.
So he denies the existence of God all the while proclaiming that there is
no greater authority than himself on which to base his findings.
The fact that you have entered into the debate at all may prove that there
is a part of you trying to destroy something you fear could exist. Why
else would it concern you?
If there is no God then the biological animals that you call man have no
more right to exist than not exist. What is the standard that gives life
more legitimacy than inanimate existence or for that matter non existence.
Who are you trying to heal from the error of their false god believing
You cry out inside that it matters for people to be whole and know
truth. Why? Where does the cry for wholeness and truth come
from? Biological responses? Heredity?
You have passion about what you have determined is the right thing for
people and the planet. What makes it right? Is their intrinsic
worth? Who places the value on it?
Where does your passion come form? Is a learned response? Then
what makes it more valid than my learned response, my belief that there is a
Why is biology fascinating? Why is their intrinsic worth in
nature? Why try to save the rain forest? Because it exists?
For what purpose? Where is the value? Why keep from turning our planet
into chemical soup? Is their more value in biological soup?
Something in you screams out that there is worth. That something is
your connection to God. Any sense of right or wrong is your connection
to God. You deny His existence all the while allowing his values of
worth be the reason for your motivation.
Yes population is a problem; Yes we are turning our planet into chemical
soup and it's tragic beyond words or actions; Yes extinction of species is a
terrible shame and along with everything else you have mentioned about our
planets demise on your web page titled "Atheism: The New Intellectual
What gives the planet it's sacredness and right to be saved?
Why is it worth saving? I agree with you about our pollution filled
planet. But why do you have passion about it? It's only
matter. Once its over its over. What you feel, your intrinsic knowledge of
the worth of life, your passionate drive to make things right, that is the
part that of you that proves to me that God exists.
It's that call to what is important. Even you passion to help people
not be duped into religious belief comes from a basic sense that to be deceived
is wrong. Where do you get that righteous feeling that you are called to
help save mankind?
Thank you! I am convinced! You have doe it for me! There must
be a God because even in the creation that denies Him there is a glimmer of what
I have found God to Be!
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From: Darwin Bedford <Darwin@atheists.net>
Subject: Re: to one who does not believe anything absolutely
You are losing your confidence in God at an alarming rate--keep those questions coming! You have raised some very good points that I would like to address more fully than I have time for right now. I have just had my carpets replaced and the place is a mess. I promise to explain why there is "a hint of arrogance in atheism".